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It' s clear. RB won that race. Whatever has happened, he is the winner. Both RB and MS disliked the decision taken by Ferrari but they both acted as professional drivers. We can also say that MS is feeling even worse about this but he showed that he is a real man (though many people accuse him for being otherwise). 
Even being a Ferrari' s BIG fan I feel ashamed about the decision they took. They can easily win both titles. They know this and everybody knows this. So switching their drivers' places at the end resulted in more harm than any good. 
Result: More money maybe but less respect for sure. The good thing in all this is that Ruben' s value starts to show up. 
Best wishes to T. Sato... Alvinos L - Cyprus


I am a big time fan of MS and Ferrari. I would rather live with MS losing the championship by two points than winning it by two points which belong to RB. 
I can fully understand why Mr. Todt has taken that decision. But it definitely kills the spirit of F1. Yes. I agree that England soccer coach would like Beckham to take the corner kicks, but there is an obvious difference between soccer and F1. In soccer, there is no obvious competition between Beckham, Owen etc. But there is a competition between MS and RB and this championship is more prestigious than the constructor's championship (at least for me). 
I don't doubt MS capability to win races but I hope this kind of thing won't happen again- Sachin T - India


I think what happened in the closing stages of the Austrian Grand Prix by the Ferrari Team was disgraceful, appalling, and very selfish. Rubens was a deserved winner. It's not Michael's fault either, rather the team bosses, whom I believe should be thrown out the sport for engaging in such activity. I will never watch F1 in the same way ever again - Wangers - Australia


What a farce! 
Why bother tuning in when the result is already known. It has bought F1 into disrepute. Michael Schumacher, hold your head in shame. You saw what was happening. You should've stopped before the finish line to give Rubens the win that he earned. 
It reminds me of the time you shunted Damon Hill off the track and were found GUILTY. (it is actually the shunting of Villeneuve at Jerez in '97 that he was found guilty of. Ed.)
I held Ferrari in high regard, but now your a joke!- Chris H - Australia


I've often questioned if F-1 was actually racing, or just drivers driving the world's best race cars. I now know the answer, or at least I know there are eunuchs serving as Ferrari "chassis spacers", and there are eunuchs running F-1 if they do not disallow this win, take away all points earned, and suspend the entire Ferrari operation for the next race, for actions detrimental to ALL forms of Motorsport. 
Without some sort of drastic correction of the nature described above, the series has absolutely no credibility, nor do its drivers, constructors, or fans. The very future of F-1 is immediately before us, and trying to explain away, the unexplainable, will only hasten the further demise of F-1. If this is tolerated, then all is lost.- Jamie - USA


With F1 trying to increase its viewer base in the U.S. Ferrari sure did shoot F1 in the foot, Rubens was faster than Michael all weekend and deserved to win. Who's to say that if Rubens keeps up his current pace and allowed to win, five or six races from now the point standings may be a lot tighter. 
With Ferrari's pace so far it's a good bet they will win the championship - but please let it be the best driver at the end of the day. 
If Ferrari is able to dictate who's going to win the way they do without penalty there should only be a constructor's title, and no drivers title because obviously World Champion does not mean much in F1 these days. 
In the U.S. Cart racing may not be as high tech as F1 but the racing is always racing, if you want to win you got earn it.- Michael S - USA


Lets start with the facts: Article 48 of the sporting regulations states……. “If in the opinion of the Formula One Commission a competitor fails to operate his team in a manner compatible with the standards of the Championship or in any way brings the Championship into disrepute, the FIA may exclude such competitor from the Championship forthwith.” Once again Ferrari have broken the spirit of F1 racing, and once again they will get away with it. Already this year we have seen different rules applied in favour of Michael and his Ferrari team. Anyone who thinks Michael doesn't run the Ferrari racing team is kidding themselves. This was the only race he had not won, he wasn't going to win but he did. For every cheating move, rule bend, unsporting action Michael has ever made there has always been FIA to support him, it started with FIA's needed to find a hero after the death of Senna. Add FIA's beloved Ferrari and Michael and you don't need to win, FIA will change the rule before the season in design, and during the season in the rules to ensure the result they want. 
Look at the rules regarding bringing F1 in to disrepute and Ferrari should be forced to withdraw. FIA do your duty, don't cheat for Ferrari your beloved team. 
A reminder article 48 of the sporting regulations states……. “If in the opinion of the Formula One Commission a competitor fails to operate his team in a manner compatible with the standards of the Championship or in any way brings the Championship into disrepute, the FIA may exclude such competitor from the Championship forthwith.” - Paul S - UK


I have a colleague, a psychologist, who used to announce to his classes that he could be bribed for grades. "I'll change an A," he would say, "to an A+ for $100.00. But to change an A- to an A will cost you a thousand. And to change a B+ to an A- will cost you TEN thousand. To change a B to a B+ will, of course, cost you a cool million." The point, obviously, is that people already at the top, in a position to take home points, don't (ordinarily) even NEED to cheat. All those folks screaming about Michael buying a win need to consider how much it would cost Eddie Irvine to buy one! So this little gambit, which the FIA is going to slap their wrists about, amounts to a sponsorship deal. Now someone can write a catchy line about M.S. and his winning record. The funny thing is that the clowns who write these kinds of dumb things imagine they sell cars --or whatever it is they're selling. Michael will end up paying for this over and over. He probably should just have some cards printed up so he can hand them to the interviewer and move on to the next topic. So. Let's talk about the REAL problem: Ferrari are simply out-classing the field. We're all mad because for a minute there we thought JPM and Kimi were going make a difference. Hello. It doesn't matter how good you are if the other fellow is running a machine AND a team that out thinks, out plans, out designs, out builds and, worst of all OUT RACES you --week after bloody week!! I guess we have to hope that Toyota (in a couple of years) will be up to the challenge. Maybe even Minardi (wouldn't THAT be a kick!?) Right now, I think we have to say that Sir Frank's best isn't good enough; that Ilmor's engines are "over" and that both teams ought to be happy that Eddie J. and the Honda guys are there to be beat. And Renault? A replay of Prost? Ford (or, as they like to call themselves, "Jaguar") are a joke. The new boss of the Ford Motor Company is calling for economy measures. If I were him, Nikki and the clowns would be first on my list! - Jim W - USA


The definitions according to Oxford dictionary: Team > a group of people who play a particular game or sport against another group of people (one played by groups rather than individual players) 
Team-mate > a member of the same team or group as yourself. 
Team-work > the activity of working well together as a team. 
Have u seen how football managers or coaches assign players for a match? Football is about team, team-mate and team-work. Why do you often see David Beckham take the free kicks and corner kicks not the others? Very simple, the team wants to win. Beckham has the capability, not to say that the others do not. But Beckham free kicks and corner kicks is the best among them. If he takes the kicks they have the higher opportunity to win. Also during penalty kick, why not others take the kicks accept those who are capable off. When Beckham score, he is the only one will get the attention. What about the others? Why can’t they take the free kicks and score some goals and get the attention? 
F1 is the same as football. Why take risks when there is an opportunity that your team can have the better chance to win. Think that if you are one of the team in Ferrari. What will you do? You may think that Rubens should win. But think again. F1, fast, risks, dangerous, accidents, engine failures, technical failures. 
Look at McLaren. Do you expect that Kimi will suffer 5 retirement in a row? Remember, McLaren is also one of the top team. Its just that they didn’t make any improvements this year. If one day, DC managed to catch up with MS, and Kimi move back to allow DC to win. What do you have to say then? Cheating? Or maybe Massa move back to allow Nick H to pass. Don’t just focus on Ferrari. Ferrari is also just a team in F1. Don’t forget that McLaren also ordered DC to move back for MH. 
However, I felt pity for Rubens. He is learning and the way he drives is improving. But, I am sure that he understands that this particular team has super-clear objective - WIN. He knew that once he is in the team, he will always be the second driver, allow MS to pass. Once in the team, he must help to team to WIN, not helping himself to win. Moreover, without Ferrari, do you think that Rubens can win? 
If MS happens to be the second driver, Ferrari will do the same. Rubens will not feel sad as he knew himself that he is FASTER than MS using the same car. He managed to race with MS and win in that race. Its just that he had to let MS pass at the end of the lap. This doesn’t mean that he lost. There are no rules stating that you can’t let your team mate win. If the race is an individual one, not as a team, then why call Team BMW –Williams or West McLaren? Or maybe each team should have a driver only. Then, there will be no team orders. Until you work as a team in F1, you will understand why Ferrari made such decision - Jay W - Malaysia


That does it. I won't be watching any more - bye - Steve L - USA


One comment, I just throw my Ferrari hat to the garbage, will never wear Ferrari merchandise ever!!!!! - JGI - Mexico


Ferrari's actions have finally allowed me to understand why we have Lamborghini's. Michael had brakes at the end of the race. I think the proper thing would have been to use them until RB crossed the line. Then a quick swerve over to the pit to display his middle finger to Mr.Todt would have endured him to this long time race fan forever. 
Sometimes sporting events are lost by 1 point or 2 points. That's why we call it "Sport". Ferrari has done a great disservice to the memory of all who have been injured or lost their lives in the quest of a F1 victory!!! - Paul T - USA


Ferrari's decision is a shocker, but then, I fully understand it. What can you do? I don't know. Mind you, it's a bit short-sighted - they say "what if..." and Michael lost the championship by a point because Rubens didn't move over. 
I say "what if Michael has a big accident and can't race for the rest of the year, and Rubens loses the championship by a point!!" Either is just as likely - Jason R - Australia


F 1 racing is BIG MONEY sport. A Team sport - Not unlike baseball. When a manager pulls the pitcher (who is ahead) for a proven reliever, puts in a "pinch-hitter to win the game: It's called "Winning Strategy". The MVP is a byproduct. 
Michael paid his dues to be the No. One Ferrari driver - Four World Championships are no fluke! Rubens and Michel acted as "Employees' - which they are - "Gentlemen" - which they are - "Friends" - which they certainly will be, ... The Best came in One, Two! 
So,... "Where is the beef?" ,... Now if I were a betting man ..? - Jules U - USA


What can I say about team orders... its happened before it will happen again... It is part of the sport no matter how distasteful!! 
However, I am going to use the money I was saving to go to Hockenheim next year to go somewhere more interesting.. like Greenland.. in February!!. - John L - Finland


Ferrari have done the unthinkable. I mean why are they so paranoid about MS and his points. They are so scared that even the F1-2002 which laps a second a lap faster than any other car on the circuit and a driver like MS doesn't give them confidence of even 4 points. Pathetic I would say. Its like spending millions to get a bottle opener and then refusing to use it. Secondly they have made a mockery of people all over the world. It was shocking to see the lead relinquished in the last 200 mts. I mean they could have done it in a less dramatic way thru the pits (which they are an expert at) a difference of 3.6 seconds and nobody would have noticed the team orders though it would have been bad for Rubens but it isn't really great for him now. 
Last years race must have been at the back of everybody's mind but to see it at the last possible moment was shocking and disgusting. After Rubens had beaten MS convincingly it is a crime to let such a thing happen. He could have easily over-ruled the orders. He lets us think that he is the boss at Ferrari, but now he sounds helpless, what double-talk is that. And what does MS talk of backing off, when instead he set the fastest lap on the penultimate lap of the race and was celebrating in his cockpit as somebody rightly pointed out or were they secretly hoping that somewhere in the race Rubens would have a problem. They always knew it was going to be MS 1 then they could have done it in a less dramatic manner. I didn't find any evidence of MS helping Rubens win his second place in the championship last year which he so rightly deserved, poor chap. 
It must feel great to drive a Ferrari but I wouldn't do anything to be in Rubens shoes. 
I really feel for that guy, from now on, no celebrating on an MS win. It was probably engineered. - Ashish - India


Until this Sunday, I was a great Ferrari fan but more importantly an F1 fan, but now I am deeply disgusted with what has happened in Austria. We have all been taken for a ride, and my deepest sympathies for Rubhino, and to a very small extent to Schuey as well.
It seems like nothing much is going to be done by the FIA, but I am sure that all fans worldwide will agree with me that Sunday was one of the ugliest episodes in F1 history. I wonder how the person(s) who made this decision are able to look themselves in the mirror - Vidya S - India


This is not what racing or any sport competition is about. The FIA should eliminate team orders. What happened to fair play, may the best man win? 
My young son loves racing as well, is this the kind of example of fair play we want our children to learn, how to cheat? Many years have been spent saving for repeated trips to Canada, this type of racing is hardly worth the price of a ticket. 
Sooooooo many different angles to what happened yesterday but they all add up to the same answer, it sucks and should not be allowed to continue. Cheating is wrong. 
I feel very badly for Rubens. Money can't buy respect, self or otherwise. 
To Michael S.: Would a true Champ allow such a thing? You have the power to turn this thing around - W.F. - USA


I borrow these words from a well known TV Personality in Australia, and use them on Ferrari, "Shame Shame Shame" Ferrari!!!! You have brought disrepute to the name of one of the greatest F1 champion drivers, and done your second driver Rubens Barrichello a grave injustice.... But also along the way you have disappointed a whole army of Ferrari fans with this unsporting manouver.... "Shame Shame Shame".... As much as I love to see Ferrari win races, You do not deserve to win the constructors championship....  Louis H - Australia


A BIG-BIG-BIG- SCANDAL FOR THE F1 - Claude B - Canada


If this type of race management by teams is allowed to continue and Michael Schumacher wins the title early in the season, then where is the excitement and interest for us all after his victory? 
The whole championship is the loser if this continues: who wants to 'tune-in' or fly out to the final races of the season if the championship is already decided. Michael is capable of winning the championship by himself without any help from the team (as we have seen over the years). I know others have done this before which does not make it right this time. Also, what encouragement does this give to people who are interested in F1 but still not committed fans? If they switch off, advertisers will complain of lost visual exposure and therefore lost revenue. For the same reason, track owners with races at the end of the season will not be impressed either. 
What if something happens to Michael again and Barrichello is beaten to the championship by a resurgent Montoya who finishes three points ahead. 
No one can argue that Barrichello didn't deserve the victory - but history will show that his second victory did not happen in Austria in 2002, whatever Michael says or the Ferrari PR machine spins out. 
Come on guys, let's have a straight race to the line! - Andrew D - UK


It's really a shame for the motor sports world what Ferrari Team did yesterday. It also bring down the image that one has on M.Schumacher because if he is all we knew, he doesn't need things like this to be World Champion again. The FIA should take strong actions against Ferrari for such behaviour, like wipe off the ten points gained by this ashamed action by the German - Jorge L - Costa Rica


The finish of the race makes F1 a mockery. They forget it is about racing first. I don't watch to see the a lacky move like that. Fans watch for racing and the person with the best set-up, team, engines etc. should win. 
FIA is a joke as they bend over for Ferrari. Ferrari should be banned for the next race, and apologize to the fans for that move. You should post e-mail address for Ferrari on your site so fans can send direct to them their comments. They need to know it is the fans who are in charge and they should learn how to race - Ian H - Canada
(Ferrari's official web site is at http://www.ferrari.com - Ed.)


2002 Austrian GP will be remembered as probably THE MOST EMBARRASSING RACE in Michael's record book . It was bad, disgusting, pathetic and irritating to see RUBENS getting robbed of his victory. 
Though I am probably one of MICHAEL'S greatest fans I felt disgusted. But at the end of it one can't really blame FERRARI. They are professionals and one has to agree, not taking any credit away from Rubens though, he is no championship material. 
Ferrari obviously would not let Rubens win today and God forbid let Michael & Ferrari themselves lose the Drivers Title at the end of the year by 4 to 5 points .THAT WOULD BE STUPID ! - Billy B - India


FIA YOUR A BIG FAN OF FERRARIS. JUST ADMIN IT 
SHAME OF F1 SPORT WITH THE GREAT 4 TIME CHAMP-FAKE...
ITS TIME FOR THE OTHER TEAM BOSSES WHO LOVE SPORT TO GET THEIR TEAMS AND LEAVE F.I.A NOW - Theo - Cyprus


That is the last time I get up in the middle of the night to watch a GP. 
It is CART in future for ME. 
R.I.P Formula One Killed by Ferrari. - Bruce G - Australia


As much as I am not happy about what happened in the last couple of metres yesterday and not particularly a Scuderia fan, lets not jump quickly to branding Michael as a villain or whatever it is they're calling him at the moment. He waz instructed by the team to over-take Rubens and am sure that the decision he took was within his bounds relative to his contract. Even Rubens admitted in the press conference that Michael had to pass because he was obeying team orders just like Rubens was when he stepped aside..
However the proceedings on the podium were a real mockery of the sport to say the least as Michael was clearly embarrassed about what he had done and yet the reality is it was a team order which he rightly followed, am sure all will be forgotten come Monaco and teams will always run strategies how they know best, its their business to do so - Godwin - UK


I cannot really understand the backlash Ferrari is receiving after the Austria race. Many fans and the media have heavily criticized Ferrari's decision to use team orders to allow Michael Schumacher to overtake Rubens Barrichello; many saying it is unsporting and downright unfair. From my point of view, Ferrari's decision was fair and was the right decision. 
Going into the race, Michael had 44 points compared to Rubens' 6. It is not too much to say that Rubens was already out of contention for the Driver's Championship. The logical decision would have been to give as much support as possible to Michael Schumacher to win the Driver's Championship. Michael needs all the points he can get to ensure that he wins it. One might say that Michael has nothing to worry as he has a "commanding" in the points and a car that faster that the rest of the competition. However, there is still 11 races to go and it would be downright stupid to underestimate the Williams. Anything can happen in F1. If Michael fails to finish the next 3 races and Ralf wins those 3 races. Ralf will be just 1 point behind Michael. I'm sure Rubens understood this and hence, let Michael pass him. The fans and the media; by criticizing and booing Ferrari for the decision, they are actually, in my view, are actually disrespecting Rubens. The same fans who booed Ferrari will most probably be celebrating if Michael wins the Driver's Championship. 
If the situation were reversed, if Rubens had 44 points and Michael 6 points and Michael was leading the race with Rubens right behind him, Michael would have let Rubens win the race. Both drivers are professionals, both want and have a responsibility to help Ferrari win the Driver's Championship and Constructors' Championship and both know what has to be done to achieve it. 
Sure, the fans might boo, but like I said, the same fans who booed Ferrari yesterday will most likely be celebrating if Ferrari win the double, even more so if the extra 4 points Michael got in Austria is what makes makes the difference in Driver's Championship. 
On another note, I was relieved to hear that Nick Heidfeld and Takuma Sato escaped unhurt from their horrific accident. I think its a good indicator to safety aspect of the cars' design, which is good for Formula 1. 
Before I leave, a point to ponder. Michael Schumacher won the 2000 Drivers' Championship. If McLaren had used team orders that year, Michael might have not won the Driver's Championship. That in my view is McLaren's loss - Dinesh S - Malaysia


I thought JV's race was one of the most exciting drives that we have seen this year. Let us just hope that he can maintain this form for the rest of the season so that he can pick up a better drive next year. Heidfield's and Sato's accident was thankfully just a car wrecking spectacle not a death causing one. 
And finally the end....well it was completely disappointing and Ferrari and MS have caused a tremendous amount of damage to themselves, I doubt that it ever will be worth it. The Ferrari is so dominant now that it really was not required. This was unlike last year when DC actually were a threat, before they pressed the self destruct button. 
No more support for MS or the cars in red from me, instead I will go back to the yellow where I can still expect to be disappointed but least by the lack of car performance NOT by a management decision - Steven P - Australia


Great race till the last corner. I don’t like it any more than anyone else, but I accept it and expected it to happen here. What surprises me is the reaction, team orders have been around since the days when this was a sport and all the participants were fair and sportsmanlike. Fangio won his titles by not only using team orders but even swapping cars when the second car was faster during the race, or if his car broke. Have the fans finally yelled “Enough”? Perhaps, but that won’t stop Ferrari from doing it again in Monaco if they have to. 
Michael patently didn’t like it in Austria, but he took the win and he will do it again and again if the opportunity arises. Rubens didn’t like it either but that’s what he is paid for and he chose to stay with Ferrari and will do the same again. Rubens will just have to satisfy himself with wins in the real races (qualifying) and the occasional invite to the centre step. He has never been faster and will keep pushing Michael as long as the motivation holds, he just needs to accept that whenever Michael is running second at the last corner he will have to yield. I agree too with GOP, Barrichello got more out of Austria by yielding than he could ever have achieved by taking the win. Only in the history books will he suffer, today’s fans know who won. Michael is arrogant, sure, but he is also very aware of his value as a commodity. He did everything he could to salvage a no-win situation and I feel as sorry for him as I do for RB. This win will be very expensive for him personally with sponsors who don’t like the reaction of the crowd voting with their feet (not that I think losing a million or two next year will hurt too much). 
Accept the situation, that’s reality TV (as Cooky so eloquently said) and reality F1 TV is about winning sponsorship dollars (and 5 times WD Champions bring more dollars than winning second drivers do). Todt made the call; the drivers did what they (yes, Michael too) are paid to do. 
As for the rest of the race, JV surprised me, Raikkonen distressed me (what is it – just runs of bad luck?), Renault disappointed me (that chassis must be fantastic, the A1 Ring showed that its not power), Sato saddened me and Arrows pleased me. 
On to another J Todt choreographed Ferrari 1-2 in Monaco! - Geoff H - Australia


Yes it SUCKS!!! SUCKS!!!! SUCKS!!!! But it has nothing to do with Michael or Rubens. NOTHING AT ALL!!! These guys are under contract and they are professional racers and they have to comply with the terms of the contract. If you want to crucify somebody then let Luca de Montezemolo and Jean Todt have it - not MS or RB. I suppose that it was established in L DE M and JT's minds that if the situation arose, team orders would apply. Once we have established that, I must say I think Ferrari did it in the best possible way. We all (and that includes everybody that has responded here) know it was Rubinho's race. There can be absolutely no one on this earth that can in any way doubt that. THIS WAS RUBINHO'S RACE!!!! And the way Ferrari did it still emphasised that. It was clear for everybody to see that it was Rubens' race. Ferrari could have ordered Rubens 15 or so laps from the end to back off .25 seconds a lap. Nobody would have picked that up and MS would have won the race and everybody would have thought it was just another MS victory. If you look at Williams: Throughout the weekend Ralph outraced Montoya (who is that again? I seem to have heard about someone by that name) Even in the race Monty was no threat to anybody up front including Ralph yet somehow during pitstops (or thereabouts) he manages to pass Ralph. Team orders? I don't know - could well be but I cannot swear to it. With Ferrari we know for certain! Ferrari's team orders SUCKS!!! SUCKS!!! SUCKS!!! But their execution was brilliant. WELL DONE RUBINHO!!!! Luca and Jean Todt - You suck!! 
P S - I have an idea Michael has landed himself a bucket load of problems for openly blaming these 2 gentlemen and publicly voicing his dissatisfaction to the team orders - Johan M - South Africa


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